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quantz



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ronniet101 wrote:
if its a requirement it will be stated in the policy document..if the guys a broker does he know every line in the policy or is he just guessing...as regards annual test...do they check the original standard of the car...whats the baseline for the test..do you therefore need to keep all the equipment original so you cannot fit any other make of alloys etc..

If youve fitted 22" then as in this country some modifications have to be disclosed to the insurance company..this could be one of them. if you dont disclose and then have an accident then you give them grounds to reject the claim


If you mount 22" on the vehicle, LR will have you signed a discharge, by which LR could reject a warranty claim on suspension, axle and so on. Tyres are considered part of the suspension set. 22" are not part of the factory rilms sets. And 22" means less gum, hence less suspension, hence more stress on mobile parts. This from my LR dealer, in writing. 2010 TDV6 3.0 HSE Santorini Black Tan Full Leather

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ronniet101



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that doesnt cover the insurance company re changing only one tyre...what youve described is a warranty issue regarding aftermarket larger wheels

or is it when you refer to insurance you mean the warranty on the vehicle

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quantz



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Both. 2010 TDV6 3.0 HSE Santorini Black Tan Full Leather

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both? im confused now...so what does the insurance say re changing tyres

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Fitting non-homologated tyres/rims is subject to liabiilty. 2010 TDV6 3.0 HSE Santorini Black Tan Full Leather

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that covers fitment of oversize wheels but doesnt cover fitting two tyres when only one is damaged though

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Again, in my country, it does. 2010 TDV6 3.0 HSE Santorini Black Tan Full Leather

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so what does the policy wording say

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The reason for replacing both sides is also to do with transmission wear - on some makes of 4wd cars (Volvo's and VW/Audi's come to mind) you have to replace all 4 tyres if wear is more than XXmm difference between old and new tyres otherwise you will cause terminal damage to the diffs due to transmission wind-up 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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That's what Kwikfit fit said when I had mine swapped, not sure if it is a issue in a LR but as said before my tires were quite low so changed both

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there are four wheel drive systems and there are glorified 2 wheel drive with add-ons. Most of the add-on systems do not use differentials as per our RR but some form of viscous couplings and large differences in tyre diameter can affect these systems

for our cars personally think its unlikely that in our permanent system with proper differentials that a small difference in diameter is actually critical, remember we are talking about a few millimetres at the most.

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Most newer AWD are actually only sophisticated 2WD cars - they have "automatic AWD". They are the ones that power only one axle (thats why those tires wear out faster) and only engage the other axle when slippage on the main axle occurs. It is the cheaper solution for people who want the added stability of AWD to feel safer. Volvo is a good example.
Drawback of that cheaper solution is (engineers often call it "hang on" solution because it has been hung onto an existing 2WD platform) that the consumer is faced with the high cost of tire replacement (all 4 need to be replaced, even if only 1 or 2 are bad). This is mainly true for older automatic AWD systems that use a viscous coupling to activate the other axle.
However, some of the automatic AWD systems are more robust than others (mainly the recent models) and a tire size difference does not immediately lead to an expensive repair. The Honda CRV and the Jeep Grand Cherokee (WJ) are among them. The more robust systems employ Haldex couplings, Gerodisc couplings or hydraulic pump systems (Honda) to activate the mostly dormant axle when needed.

There are some AWD vehicles where it does not matter what you do. Replace one tire, replace 2 - it does not matter. Those AWD vehicles are true AWD, in the sense that they are full time 4WD or permanent 4WD powering all 4 wheels with about equal force. Most Subaru (except Impreza), BMW X5, Audi, some Toyota, Mercedes, etc. are in that group of true AWD. These AWD vehicles have a differential between the two permanently powered drive shafts. They are the ones that will survive a replacement tire that is slightly larger or slightly smaller

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