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JayMann

Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
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2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Buckingham Blue

will_wonka wrote:
Kaine wrote:
will_wonka wrote:
X5 - Laughable

really? I thought the X5 was a good car - no?

Was being the keyword. It still drives fantastically, but everything else is just adequate.

I love the X5 think i may bin the RRS for one? The RRS isn't a touch on the X5 RRS TDV6 Gone but still around

SL55 AMG
760Li Alpina
BMW 535D M Sport
BMW 320D Coupe M Sport
Shaguar Hard Type (know you all miss her but she's gone)
And A Van For Rex!

Oh and i love the girlzzzzzzzzzz!!!

Tue Apr 22 2008 9:09pm

will_wonka

Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Location: Pouring hot oil on the local peasants
Posts: 1206

2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged HST Rimini Red

JayMann wrote:
will_wonka wrote:
Kaine wrote:
will_wonka wrote:
X5 - Laughable

really? I thought the X5 was a good car - no?

Was being the keyword. It still drives fantastically, but everything else is just adequate.

I love the X5 think i may bin the RRS for one? The RRS isn't a touch on the X5

!!Cuckoo!! My Gladiators:

RRS S/C HST - respect of the highest order
Freeloader 2 SE with all the toys - my baby RR
Merc SL55 AMG - Tarmac ripper!

Disco3 - Gone
Defender 90 TD - Gone
FFRR Vogue - Gone
BMW X5 4.4 - Gone
LR Defender 300Tdi - Gone
LR Defender 2.5 PETROL - Gone

Tue Apr 22 2008 9:16pm

JayMann

Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
Posts: 20901

will_wonka wrote:
!!Cuckoo!!

What is that? RRS TDV6 Gone but still around

SL55 AMG
760Li Alpina
BMW 535D M Sport
BMW 320D Coupe M Sport
Shaguar Hard Type (know you all miss her but she's gone)
And A Van For Rex!

Oh and i love the girlzzzzzzzzzz!!!

Tue Apr 22 2008 9:18pm

JayMann

Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
Posts: 20901

WW you have PM! RRS TDV6 Gone but still around

SL55 AMG
760Li Alpina
BMW 535D M Sport
BMW 320D Coupe M Sport
Shaguar Hard Type (know you all miss her but she's gone)
And A Van For Rex!

Oh and i love the girlzzzzzzzzzz!!!

Tue Apr 22 2008 9:32pm

will_wonka

Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Location: Pouring hot oil on the local peasants
Posts: 1206

JayMann wrote:
will_wonka wrote:
!!Cuckoo!!

What is that?

Merely a parody.....cue Shallow Hal My Gladiators:

RRS S/C HST - respect of the highest order
Freeloader 2 SE with all the toys - my baby RR
Merc SL55 AMG - Tarmac ripper!

Disco3 - Gone
Defender 90 TD - Gone
FFRR Vogue - Gone
BMW X5 4.4 - Gone
LR Defender 300Tdi - Gone
LR Defender 2.5 PETROL - Gone

Tue Apr 22 2008 9:36pm

will_wonka

Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Location: Pouring hot oil on the local peasants
Posts: 1206

JayMann wrote:
WW you have PM!

and back to you

My Gladiators:

RRS S/C HST - respect of the highest order
Freeloader 2 SE with all the toys - my baby RR
Merc SL55 AMG - Tarmac ripper!

Disco3 - Gone
Defender 90 TD - Gone
FFRR Vogue - Gone
BMW X5 4.4 - Gone
LR Defender 300Tdi - Gone
LR Defender 2.5 PETROL - Gone

Tue Apr 22 2008 9:41pm

AJSG

Joined: 30 Dec 2007
Location: London
Posts: 85

2005 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Bonatti Grey

Kaine wrote:
I was really impressed with the GL420 due to the V8 Diesel so that doesn't really help you

That's right, I live in an urban/suburban environment, which means buying a diesel is socially and environmentally immoral. Until I can buy biodiesel at the pump I will never be tempted by such an engine.

That is the temptation of the Porsche, but it is really quite a lot more money that the RRS or the Q7. 2007 Audi Q7 4.2 FSI Grey/Black Int.
2005 Quattroporte Grey/Black Int.

Wed Apr 23 2008 7:33am

shmoogle
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Good review Andrew.... Porsche are producing a diesel Cayenne soon, so if you do end up buying one you'll have to get rid of it before the range is sullied by such an engine

Wed Apr 23 2008 7:45am

AJSG

Joined: 30 Dec 2007
Location: London
Posts: 85

shmoogle wrote:
Porsche are producing a diesel Cayenne soon, so if you do end up buying one you'll have to get rid of it before the range is sullied by such an engine

Well according to the dealership and the update calendar I saw from Stuttgart (could all be lies of course) there is nothing planned in that direction. The calendar went to 2010.

Problem is that practically all Diesel SUVs fail the CO2 limit, and if they bring out the full testing (as the German TUV has been suggesting for years) then they will add particulate emission and much more aggressive acceleration/deceleration cycles, which will then increase dramatically the "official" environmental impact of diesel engines. Some European towns are considering banning all diesels from Urban environments.

The benefit of diesel is low consuption at low to medium loads, at high loads and high revs the diesel engine (any diesel) is a disaster of inefficiency. Therefore in extraurban and motorway use the diesel is a good choice, in urban environments the diesel is a disaster. 2007 Audi Q7 4.2 FSI Grey/Black Int.
2005 Quattroporte Grey/Black Int.

Wed Apr 23 2008 8:01am

Pelyma

Joined: 28 Sep 2005
Location: Clymping, Sussex
Posts: 1145

One of the guys on the D3 forum chopped his in for the 420 GL and had a terrible time with it, but I can't remember why, he is back in a D3. I should think the 420 ML is pretty good too they are pretty quick too. DS3 TDV6 HSE
Silver with Alpacca

Wed Apr 23 2008 8:12am

AJSG

Joined: 30 Dec 2007
Location: London
Posts: 85

Pelyma wrote:
One of the guys on the D3 forum chopped his in for the 420 GL and had a terrible time with it, but I can't remember why, he is back in a D3. I should think the 420 ML is pretty good too they are pretty quick too.

I have rented several ML's over the years, especially when visiting my mother in Bavaria in the midst of winter. I must say almost all models I have driven have been a disappointment. Which is why I haven't even included it in our list of possible choices.

BMW have been off my list for two reasons, I absolutely hate the I-drive system (and the indicators), and I don't like the way that other British drivers treat BMW owners. 2007 Audi Q7 4.2 FSI Grey/Black Int.
2005 Quattroporte Grey/Black Int.

Wed Apr 23 2008 9:46am

Pelyma

Joined: 28 Sep 2005
Location: Clymping, Sussex
Posts: 1145

Is that the new ML though? DS3 TDV6 HSE
Silver with Alpacca

Wed Apr 23 2008 12:25pm

Havank

Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Location: West Sussex - UK
Posts: 691

I like the X5 and as i already own a FFRR was i thinking of getting an X5 or Touareg

The Porche is to expensive for what it is, the RRS is just a D3 (and the quality is not near a FFRR) a Q7 is a big allroad (which i already had) and the merc is just plane boring

And yes it will be a diesel as i do everyday about 120 miles.

that is my quick car review

Wed Apr 23 2008 12:26pm

Tim in Scotland

Joined: 30 May 2005
Location: Driving along in my automobile
Posts: 8082

2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

In Autocar magazine this week they pit a Cayenne GTS against a BMW M5 Touring....................... the M5 comes out best but it is quite a close run thing. The Cayenne costs £54k compared to the £68k of the M5, but then if you were to bring the Cayenne to the same standard spec as the M5 then the Cayenne would cost in excess of the M5.
The GTS really is a stripped out car - you want Bi-Xenons then you pay extra, no cruise (it's extra), aircon is extra, an auto gearbox is extra, in fact everything that you would take for granted on an RRS costs extra on the Cayenne........................... it even LOOSES the air suspension of the the GT and Turbo models. A Carbon Footprint is the mark a lump of coal makes when it's dropped on the ground.

Tata TDv8 HSE - Stornoway/ebony and straight grain walnut with towpack, Tasmods and an HST grille. Coming soon LEDs in the headlights
Staying - Epsom Green Defender 90 for playing off road

Wed Apr 23 2008 4:49pm

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